Julie herself must have worried their marriage wasnt normal for a long time. Julie believed him. Though Paula has never made an official statement, her daughter Kerri Rawson came forward in 2014 and contended the family never knew Dennis was responsible for the murders. Here are five women who unknowingly married serial killers: Paula Rader was married to her husband Dennis for 34 years before she found out he was a serial killer. If youre looking for modern examples those are easy to find too. From 1989 to the mid-1990s, the discarded dead bodies of men were being found in rural areas along the corridor of Interstate 70 between Indianapolis, Indiana and Columbus, Ohio. "He always had answers to everything," Linda said. While researching this case, I came across something highly unusual, something I never really expected, and fairly rare among the ranks of serial killers similar to Herb. Gay men were disappearing in the area, and they had usually last been seen in the citys gay bars and nightclubs. Ive listened to and read so much true crime over the years, I didnt think this process would be any different but it is. Julie didnt go to the police. Perfect life. When the informant finally opened his eyes, Smart appeared rattled, and he claimed he was scared because [00:12:00] the man had lost consciousness. Despite Herbs questionable management style, by 1991, the small Save A Lot chain was successful enough to allow the Baumeisters to buy a new home, a much bigger home outside of the city. At the same time, Herb had disappeared. I could be wrong, but I feel that if I use this series as a way to talk through this, a way to work out some of these demons, I might be able to get to the other side, and I might end up in a better place. She simply believed he was engaging in extramarital affairs. The car was registered to Baumeister. Darciegot a divorce from her husband during his incarcerationand has since changed her and her children's names. While he owned the Sav-A-Lot stores, employees reported that he would sometimes disappear for long stretches of the day, occasionally returning with alcohol on his breath. Probably carried away by animals. She thought to herself. Then less than one year later in March of 1986, Herb was charged with auto theft [00:20:00] and conspiracy to commit theft, but he once again avoided punishment and somehow beat the charges against him. They didnt have evidence enough for a search warrant. Which is just how Herb liked it. I dont even like talking about psychics, but thats what they say. According to the Gazette, the psychics also say that the place is haunted by at least four of Baumeisters victims, not to mention Herb Baumeister himself. She Thought Something Was Off About Her Husband. Theres no doubt its his fields, his driveway, and his fence. Julie Baumeister - Communications & Events Coordinator - LinkedIn Eventually, police identified eight victims, though at least three unidentified bodies were also found. Newscaster: Herb [00:27:00] Baumeister of Carmel saw it all. Along with the skeletal remains, investigators unearthed handcuffs, no doubt used on the victims, and several cans of Miller Genuine Draft, Herbs favorite drink. The last few summers, shed taken the kids to the familys lakeside condo 100 miles away, leaving Herb to focus on business back in Westfield alone. Theres a broken sense of reality. Theres Herb standing on the edge of his property [00:26:30] wearing a suit and tie and looking exactly how you would imagine a successful small business owner might look in the 1990s. As it turns out, [00:06:00] there was a lot more. [00:07:30] By the mid-1990s, the Indianapolis Police and the Marion County Sheriffs Department knew they had a problem. This is clearly a man who has a sexual fetish for female mannequins and simply cant control his urges, even if that means breaking into a business to satisfy his needs. Scott Benjamin: I want to let you in on [00:00:30] a dark secret that Ive tried to hide from nearly everyone for the last few years. Turning it over in her hands, the ice-milled silt tumbled from its hollow center, and Julie Baumeisters stomach sank as she stared into the unmistakable caverns of a human skull. Julie said she felt drawn to Herb because of his good looks and interest in cars, and how they were both Young Republicans. A lot of them were taken on their way to or on their way home from Indys gay nightclubs, but now in the fall of 1994, things were about to change. Make this guided journal your trusted friend during your journey to feeling whole again. LexisNexis, 2015. Hoff told The New York Times that when she asked Gacy about the wallets, he became furious. WebJulie Baumeister Communications & Events Coordinator at Great River Greening; Richfield Foundation Board Member & Secretary Minneapolis, MN. They co-owned a chain of Sav-A-Lot thrift stores in Indianapolis, which donated some $50,000 a year to programs to help neglected children. The 11,000 square-foot house features an indoor swimming pool, a five-car garage, stained glass windows, and two libraries. Ep: 49 - Herb Baumeister & The House on Fox Hollow Farm The Psychology of Serial Killers. The Baumeister family was ready to move into their new dream home. Were they in denial? In addition to the 11 bodies found on his property, Herb was also suspected in at least nine other killings along the I70 corridor between Indiana and Ohio. Someone like Herb Baumeister. Once again, it didnt take long. The couple went on to have four children. To make matters worse, his son, Eric, found a human skull in the woods surrounding the family home. Garden of the Dead: The Gruesome True Story of the Murders at One common theory is that Herb tossed him in a river or lake before he pulled the trigger, and because he took his own life, Herb Baumeister [00:20:00] was never arrested for his crimes, never went to trial, and he never confessed to a single murder, not even in the rambling suicide note found near his body. WebJulie Baumeister had some suspicion that something wasnt right when her 13-year-old son discovered a human skull while playing on the familys property. WebGreat River Greening. While we do not discount the information that has and continues to come to light, we do not know the person whom we have read and heard about on TV [John Robinson is a] loving and caring husband and father We wait with each of you for the cloud of allegations and innuendo to clear, revealing, at last, the facts. She told "Dateline, "Especially when he said he was going hunting, and he was dressed up nice and had cologne on. Julie had filed for divorce and Herb was so depressed that he threatened to take his own life, but even all of that wasnt the worst thing that happened to Herb. She was initially shocked by the allegations that her husband was cruising gay nightclubs while she was away. Every summer, Julie would take their son Erich and their two daughters, Marne and Emily, to a lake house owned by Herbs mother. Youll find the makeshift graveyard beneath the drainage pipe just like his neighbor did where rib cages peeked out from an unkempt lawn. And he was the perfect killer.. In the fall of 1994, Julie Baumeisters 13-year-old son found human remains on the familys $1 million estate, Fox Hollow Farm. Herbs double life held a lot of secrets. He would throw furniture, she said. We know plenty about the case, but its also clear [00:20:30] that some of the dirtiest details went to the grave along with Herb Baumeister. From iHeartRadio and TenderfootTV, Monster Presents: Insomniac. It was at this point Smart began choking him with the pool hose, but when it was clear that he wasnt going to stop, the informant pretended to pass out and Smart released him. After all, a license [00:09:00] plate search of the Buick with Ohio plates had pointed directly to Herb, and the police were desperate to make any connection that might bring an end to the killings. When his wife confronted him about the magazines, he informed herhe preferred men over women. In 1998, a witness identified a photo of Herb Baumeister, saying that he had seen Baumeister leaving an Indianapolis nightclub with Michael Riley in 1983. Im hoping that by sharing with you the details of these real life monsters that I can shake some of these demons out of my head long enough [00:03:30] to get some much needed rest. But I always understood. Herb was missing for 8 days before his body was found at a campsite in Canada. Hoff married Gacy in 1972, and they were together for only four years. He called to tell the authorities about a suspicion. Their website calls Fox Hollow Farm one of the most terrifying locations we have EVER investigated. They claim that the Graves family found even more human remains on the farm, and that they have witnessed apparitions and heard voices, knocks, and footsteps in the house. Rader also said right before his arrest, his wife told him, You spell just like BTK.". In fact, its become the opposite, and I just want it to end. Julie confronted her husband about the allegations, buthe denied any involvement;she believed him. I started recording myself and these sleepless moments, a log of my thoughts. Herb Baumeister and wife signed checks *deceased serial She knew he was flawed, far from perfect. In this episode, Michael Drane, UPC's Doctor Psycho Podcast - A Forensic Psychology Podcast At one point, Julie admitted that she and Herb only had sex six times in their entire 25 year marriage. But heres how all of this came to be. The material were going to cover [00:24:30] is going to be dark, and the journeys going to be difficult. By continuing to browse, you accept the use of cookies and other technologies. The blog Real Evidence of the Paranormal records a veritable litany of accounts supposedly drawn from the Graves family and their friends. In 1987 in upstate New York, a convicted [00:21:00] killer was paroled early after he was deemed no longer dangerous to society. All of them had been strangled to death. August 15, 2017. For instance, Ronald Dotson, age 39 at the time, was arrested in the city of Royal Oak, Michigan in [00:15:00] 2007. It also afforded Herb a lot of privacy, enough to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted without the fear of being discovered. If Ive been asked to keep quiet about something, I do. By 1974, Herb had taken a job with the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and was eventually promoted to program director. WebJulie Baumeister 6/16/22 Julie Baumeister 6/16/22. In his teens, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, but he never received treatment for this diagnosis. He was a pathological liar, a pedophile, a manipulator, and a serial killer, with a second chance he intended to take. However, with only one mans story of a sexual encounter gone awry, the police didnt have enough evidence for a search warrant, and Herb rebuffed them at the estate. He shot himself in the forehead with a .357 Magnum, leaving behind a three-page suicide note that described his failing business, his familys financial woes, and his marital troubles, but made no mention of the grisly crimes of which he was now the prime suspect. The very next day, on July 3rd, 1996, that same American visitor was in Pinery Provincial Park in Grand Bend, Ontario, Canada. When police arrested Robert L. Yates Jr. in connection with the murder of 13 people, his wife, Linda Yates, was in utter disbelief. She refused. He was in turn described as a hotheaded boaster always trying to impress people, a perfectionist given to unprovoked rages, and a gregarious family man who loved old cars. Her Husband Accidentally Died, Then She Found The Bodies In HisTrunk, 37 Creepy Stories Of Serial Killers That Have Stuck With People Over TheYears, I Always Thought Something Was Off About My Basement, But I Had No Idea How Terrifying The TruthWas, 37 Gruesome Facts I Learned About Ted Bundy From The Stranger BesideMe, 41 Of The Creepiest Unsolved Mysteries Of AllTime, Im Ready To Tell The Truth About My Interviews With Graham Welsh, The Man Found Innocent After 20 Years On DeathRow. The Hunter of Fox Hollow: Chapter Four - Do317 WebLeben. Listen to his interview and see if you agree. Oxygen Insider is your all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! Julie moved from Fox Hollow Farm. Earning the couple a small fortune in the first year alone. When they returned to the spot, they found an entire cluster [00:05:00] of bones, a half buried full human skeleton. Hoff was a newdivorce and had two daughters from her previous marriage. The authorities were still sniffing around him and Julie, [00:10:00] just waiting for the chance to search the property. the estate to build a case against Herb in connection with the multiple disappearances of gay men in the Indianapolis area. Its embarrassing and I dont want it to happen anymore. Theres something more. Trying to appear a little more normal than the way he was perceived by everyone around him. In fact, the dark truth was only beginning to be unearthed in his hometown of Westfield, Indiana just one day before his death, and people in the small town were already beginning to talk. The ordeal frightened Harris, and he went to the police. Founded in 2010, Thought Catalog is owned and operated by The Thought & Expression Company, Inc. For over a decade, we've been at the bleeding edge of media, pioneering an infrastructure for creatives to flourish both artistically and financially. Human remains in your own backyard are hard to overlook. The tale is filled with such horror that its easy to overlook the mannequins. Usually, the people who end up marrying serial killers have no idea theyre sleeping next to monsters, and their partners sadistic behavior can go completely unnoticed. , and Dennis did not contest the separation. Of her late husbands alleged killings, Julie told People, Our biggest question now is how he could have loved us and done this. Link your TV provider to stream full episodes and live TV. To some extent, everyone has a double life. At the same time, he lived a second life whichincluded sadomasochistic sex and serial murder. It was called Fox Hollow Farm, and the sprawling property with the nearly 10,000 square foot house, horse stables, [00:03:30] a separate apartment, wooded areas, and even an indoor pool was the familys dream. All right, so Im going home from work now and its about, its about five oclock. Over the course of two years, 10 or more disappearances were reported, but the police had little to go on until Tony Harris (a pseudonym used to protect the witnesss privacy) came to them with an unusual story. Chapter One Not the kind of nightmares that a child might have, but the kind that can only come from the mind of a grown adult that seen a little too much real life horror, read a little too much of the macabre, and someone whos experienced a lot of recent pain and loss. Even [00:05:30] after she realized that it had somehow disappeared just a few days later. All right, well, its a two oclock in the morning on Saturday, early Sunday. Im supposed to be writing. Killings that all occurred in Herbs early active years and then abruptly ended when he [00:19:00] bought his home and Fox Hollow Farm. Brian Smart turned out to be Herb Baumeister. But in [00:17:30] adolescents, he started developing antisocial behaviors. If you dont know what schizophrenia is, its a long-term mental disorder that can last for years or even a lifetime. Over the course of the season, Ill tell you all about it and what has done to me on a professional level as well as personally. Theres a breakdown in the relation between thought and emotion and behavior. They recently sold eight acres of the property to Noah Herron, owner of the Urban Vines Winery & Brewery, who intends to break the acreage up and sell off three lots, while also building a home for his family. Ep: 190 - Herb Baumeister / I-70 Strangler" - Reloaded - The House of Fox Hallow Farm - The Psychology of Serial Killers, AKA The "I-70 Strangler" and responsible for "The Gay Murders" in Indiana in the late 1980's and early 1990's was an odd man that rode around in a hearse and urinating on a lot of different things, Ep: 49 - Herb Baumeister & The House on Fox Hollow Farm The Psychology of Serial Killers, Erotophonophilia & Auto-Erotic Asphixiation, prolific serial killer and murderer who turned his massive estate. With that, he pulled out a 357 magnum and shot himself in the forehead. Something Ive only shared with a handful of people until today. [00:08:30] That doesnt match up with the mixed up confused thoughts and behaviors of someone who is an untreated schizophrenia. That was all Harris could offer until 1995, when, in a stroke of luck, Brian revisited the bar. WebJulie began taking the children away for months at a time, leaving Herb alone at Fox Hollow. On May 25, 1969, authorities arrested Jerry and charged him with four murders and an additional two attempted murders. There was no excuse for that. 30 years ago, I never dreamed Id be doing what I am now. Along with her mother and two daughters from a previous marriage, Hoff lived in the Illinois home where Gacy committed many of his murders. Well, its due to a condition called agalmatophilia, which is the sexual attraction to a statue or a doll or [00:14:00] a mannequin or any other similar figurative object, most often one that has a female form. On September 3rd, 1985, Herb now 38 committed a hit and run while intoxicated. The authorities were now conducting a second search at Fox Hollow Farm, [00:17:30] this time in a ditch that separated the Baumeisters property from their neighbors. [00:12:00] Rough. They lived in Wichita, KS, and had two children together, a boy and a girl. For instance, when he was young and on the way to school one morning he picked up a dead crow, pocketed it, and later placed it on his teachers desk when she wasnt looking. In their 23 years of marriage she says theyd had sex six times, just enough to produce their three children. Credits: [00:21:30] Insomniac is a production of iHeart Radio and Tenderfoot TV written and hosted by Scott Benjamin and produced by Miranda Hawkins, Alex Williams, Matt Frederick and Josh Thane. Im just thankful that my own secret isnt going to lead to a complete collapse of my life. They just decided to take some stuff out of old files, dust it off and say we solved this, Ted Fleischaker, the publisher of a newspaper serving the Indianapolis gay community, told the Associated Press. The anxiety, the lack of energy during the day, falling asleep at my office desk in the middle of the afternoon, trouble concentrating on anything, and then extremely restless sleep when I do drift off in the evenings. I feel like Im aging a lot faster than I ever have before. When he was younger, he worked as a copy boy at the Indianapolis Star, during which time he and a friend also co-owned a secondhand hearse. But Herb Baumeister is the only suspect we have., Not everyone was as convinced. He was finally apprehended in the winter of 2005 after he accidentally incriminated himself while sending taunting letters to the police. Not that Im keeping anything criminal from them, but my insomnia makes me a different person [00:13:30] altogether. Goodlet had gone missing in July of 1994. In the note, Herb cited his failed business, the impending bankruptcy and the upcoming divorce as his reasons for taking his life. He made no mention of the young men whose remains were discovered in his backyard. Further investigations into Herb Baumeisters secret life resulted in further disturbing revelations. They have also lived in New York, NY and Orlando, FL. The sheriffs office has no suspects in the deaths of the seven whose bones were found here. According to the Chillicothe Gazette, weird things started happening about a year after the Graves family moved in. This was not the fate for Fox Hollow. Even the Graveses, who still live on 10 acres of the property and who generally shrugged off the suggestions that its haunted, may not be as skeptical as they once were. Even so, it really does make you wonder how she ignored so many signs that Herb was not necessarily the man she thought he was. The story of Herb Baumeister and Fox Hollow Farm is bizarre in so many ways. When questioned by police, Baumeister's wife Juliana told investigators that one of their kids found a human skull on the farm in December 1994. When Herb was a young man, his father had secretly taken him in for psychological testing, which reportedly diagnosed Herb with schizophrenia, a condition for which he was never treated. In 1994, Julie Baumeister had been having problems in her marriage. It seems like Julie spent as much time keeping the kids away from Herb as possible. Laying in bed at night with your eyes wide open and then at your desk at the office with your eyes closed and you cant keep them open. I dont want to sleep during the middle of the day. He even once urinated on a teachers desk. Doctor Psycho is a odcast thst searches the broken underbelly of society, shining a light on more neglected topics. She gave the police [00:10:30] permission for a full search of the property while Herb was away. Then Her [00:06:30] He had a strange fascination with dead animals. Six months after his marriage to Julie, Herbs father had him committed to a psychiatric hospital, where he spent nearly two months. I think now, if there were murders, some must have taken place when I was in that house, Hoff said. August 15, 2017. He had found skeletal remains near a drainage ditch that separated the two properties. The Graveses and their sons work as housekeepers, groundskeepers, and do-it-yourselfers to keep the sprawling property in top shape. Erich was carrying a human skull on a stick. How could he be so sure of their loyalty? He always had dog eared pages and some handwritten notes in the margins or on the backside of the cover [00:23:00] as if he was trying to piece the story together himself, to solve the crime before he finished the last chapter. Yes! [00:01:30] Unfortunately, I believe thats been tarnished for the same reason as well. The second best result is Julie Green Baumeister age 40s in Chicago, IL in the Lincoln Park neighborhood. [00:09:30] He said his name was Brian Smart, and he was a landscaper from Ohio. Even for many of the wives of historys grisliest murderers, their husbands arrests came as a total shock. Ashamed. It eventually sold at a third of its $2.3 million asking price, according to the Indianapolis Star. Soon after moving in, the new owners started to tell of strange goings on, including shadowy male figuresone walking without legslurking around the backyard. Related: 10 Most Depraved Serial Killers of All Time Ranked by Their Number of Victims. Id cry., Ridgway later confessed to killing 48 young women as part of a plea deal, but he admitted the total murders could be as many as 71. Those that have this condition are sexualizing a doll. Judith Mawsonbecame instantly smitten when she met Gary Ridgway in 1985.